Yes I said it. Glocks suck. Glock as a company also sucks but I’ll get to that in another post. Now why you might wonder, would I say Glocks suck. it’s really pretty simple. I’m taking a break from the bug out kit thing as this has been floating around in my mind for the last few days.
The Trigger Guard – As someone who has “Glock Callous” I can honestly say the trigger guard on the Glock frame needs to be thinned. This an almost universal modification when people have stippling work done on their Glocks. If you’re one of the few that this doesn’t bother, great! For the rest of us, this could stand to be remedied. It actually helps to get the hand a bit higher on the grip and for new users or people who don’t shoot frequently, it can be a bit rough on the knuckle. I largely exempt the 42 and 43 from this one.
Plastic Factory Sights – I’m to a point now where if the sights were decent, I might not bother replacing them. Having torn a front loose once and known others who have smashed the crap out of the plastic factory rear, I think it’s safe to say that this is a shortcoming. I understand most will replace them. It’s my view this is more of a necessity than anything else.
In a day when many new guns have already been released with ambidextrous controls, Glock decided they’d live dangerously. They tossed us users a bone with a reversible magazine release on the Gen 4 guns. That’s it. Many of us who shoot the crap out of our guns prefer to release the slide with the thumb of either our support hand or our firing hand. Being able to use the same quick methodology for which either hand would be great. As I type this, we’re approaching the release of the Gen 5. And that may finally give us the ambidextrous slide catch.
With all that said, I still shoot Glock 19s primarily. So if you’ll excuse me, I’ll be in the garage with my Glock 19 frame and Dremel.
If you reside in western Washington, William Larson’s Semper Paratus Arms will be in Maple Valley, Wa August 28th and 29th to conduct their AR15 Armorer’s class. You can sign up on their page www.semperparatusarms.com
If you talk to a number of people in the preparedness world, many will advocate staying put over “bugging out” (i.e. fleeing). Many times, this discussion is far too narrowly focused and often fails to account for a large number of things that could realistically happen.
Kathy over at the Cornered Cat blog, shared this blog post today. It is a good reminder for those with children. It’s also important to remember that we get “feelings” when something isn’t right. For some this may come as a “voice in the back of the head” or something along those lines. It is important that we don’t ignore that feeling or voice. It is there to help us survive. Instead, in many case, people choose to ignore it. How often have you heard someone say, “I should have known better”? Whether we’re trying to avoid food poisoning or a violent encounter, that voice is there for a reason.
For those who aren’t aware, this past weekend was the 2017 Triggrcon show in Tacoma, Wa. Largely an AR15 related show, there were a number of vendors with other products such as Glock oriented parts, cleaning supplies, and bullets. The whole thing was the brainchild of Rainier Arms.
The first year, 2016, it was dubbed the Northwest Shooting Sports Expo. That event was so successful that it was renamed and expanded, giving us 2017’s Triggrcon event.
The first day, Thursday, was a range day for industry and media. That is where I finally managed to lay my grubby mitts on a Hudson H9. I came away from shooting it with a very favorable impression. I had heard that there were functional issues at SHOT. For this event, those issues appeared to be non-existent. I don’t see it being anything other than a niche market gun, sort of in the same vein as the HK P7 series, but it’s a nice niche gun.
Friday was industry and media day at the show. Sadly I forgot to take my camera’s memory card for my along. Crap. But I had plenty of batteries!
Triggrcon was open to the public Saturday and Sunday. Registration was still required through the site. If they had any on site, I missed it.
A FEW OF THE ATTENDEES
I’ve largely been skeptical of 80% stuff. Keep in mind I have a background in metal working and look at the 80% AR lowers and ask “Why?” That said, Polymer 80 was there at the show with their “Glock” (fauxlock?) frames. I found myself actually liking P80’s Glock frame. It actually felt better in the hand. I’m sure the feel was partly due to the high cut front strap resulting in less trigger guard interference on my knuckle. Impressive. I might have to try one.
Your Buddy Stan , a local vendor based just north of Seattle,hosted Phlster. Jon and Stan brought plenty of holsters and Flatpack TQ carriers as well.
One of the more interesting things I saw was a 3.7 pound AR15. Perfect for those who don’t want to lug a bunch of weight when hunting.
Rainier Ballistics had a booth and bullets. What more could you want there? Ok, maybe powder.
There was a lot more to the show, but I will have to get into that later.
Sorry for the absence for the last few days folks. The good news is I spent yesterday on the range Triggrcon’s Industry and Media Range day.
Just the range portion of the day turned out to be a much larger event than I had expected. Daniel Defense, Aero Precision, Quarter Circle Ten, GemTech, Sig Sauer, Grey Ghost Precision, Hudson, Noveske, FN, Chip McCormick, S3F, Battle Arms Development, and Kinetic Development Group, to name but a few of them.
My lesson for the day was that a Scar 17 isn’t particularly controllable on full auto. Though squeezing off two shots at a time is relatively easy.
Recently, Tom Givens wrote an article in American Handgunner. It raised some excellent points about people with knowledge and experience trying to share with others only to have their efforts dismissed for one reason or another without consideration of the merits of their points.
As readers of concealednation.org and/or activeresponsetraining.net may know, Concealed Nation has a regular feature they call “Dig the Rig”. Generally if there’s something glaringly bad, Greg over at Active Response Training covers it. Since he hasn’t yet touched this one, I thought I would.
When one thinks of Sig Arms handguns, things like the beautiful P210, the classic P220, or even the more modern P229 come to mind. Polymer isn’t usually the first thing that comes to mind as Sig’s Pro series was, well, sort of lackluster. I don’t think anyone is going to look at any of the Sig Pro series and wonder why more people don’t use them (well ok, maybe two people that I can think of). Sig however, learned from that, and started with a completely new concept and design. They call it the P320 and they did an amazing job of building an economical, tasteful, and versatile handgun. The problem however, is this combination places the Sig P320 squarely in the sights of one of the heaviest hitters in the industry, the Glock 19, but can it compete? Sig P320 Compact vs Glock 19 – I’m not sure there be a more fitting matchup?
Unless you’ve been hiding under a rock for the last nearly two decades, you’re probably aware of Glock’s compact 9mm offering, the model 19. Now in its fourth generation (some would argue the law enforcement M series to be the fifth generation), the 19 has seen an increase in popularity due to its rather compact size, 15+1 capacity, reliability, and relative affordability. In its fourth generation version it has even managed to find itself with a larger and reversible magazine release, to better accommodate lefties and interchangeable back straps to accommodate various hand sizes.
The Sig P320 is the proverbial new kid on the block. Released into wild in 2014, the Sig P320 has gained traction quickly in competition. The P320 I use in the images of this article, utilizes a compact medium frame that has had some work done by Boresight Solutions.
Weights and Measures
Sig P320 Comp.
*Weights and measurements are as given by the manufacturers
The trigger in the 19 has driven me nuts. While it would break at around six and a half pounds, it was anything but crisp. It seemed like the trigger tended to get heavier up to the wall and then before it would break as well. Contrasted with the P320’s long smooth pull of also six and a half pounds, I have to call the trigger comparison in favor of the P320.
Sig P320 Compact: 1 Glock 19: 0
Glock’s parts interchangeability and adjustable back straps are about as close as they seem to be willing to get to modularity. Forget factory available conversion kits. Sig on the other hand has elevated it to a fine art in the P320. There are two “frames” (really just the trigger pack” one is for 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357 Sig while the other is for .45 ACP. This means that if you start with a 9mm, .40, or .357, you can’t swap to a .45 or vice versa. That said, you have frames available in full size, carry (full size grip with compact dust cover), compact, and sub compact. And all of those are available as small, medium, or large grips sizes to accommodate different hand sizes. It’s a pretty ingenious plan if you ask me. Point goes to the Sig.
Sig P320 Compact: 2 Glock 19: 0
Aftermarket Parts and Accessories
At present, while there is aftermarket support for the P320, particularly in the competition arena, it is nowhere close to the Glock 19 which is to be expected with a 20+ year head start and significant popularity. That said, aftermarket base pads, barrels, and sights are readily available for both pistols. Though the Glock can probably be built from 100% aftermarket parts and the same cannot be said for the Sig. This point goes to the Glock.
Sig P320 Compact: 2 Glock 19: 1
Let’s face it, whether it’s factory 3-dot sights in tritium or their non-luminescent offering, the Sig factory sights are serviceable straight from the box. Whereas the Glock 19 generally comes with plastic “sights” that could be blown off the pistol by wayward mouse flatulence. There are exceptions to this, but they’re not common. Sights should be serviceable out of the box, even if they aren’t the end user’s preference. This point goes to the Sig.
Sig P320 Compact: 3 Glock 19: 1
Glock has always had low bore height going for their design. Sig, well, not so much. Glock’s approach contributes to a more compact slide as well. When firing these two pistols side by side, the difference in bore height and the resulting leverage on my wrists was noticeable. While it’s possible it’s just because I’m used to the Glock, I just found this aspect of the Sig to be annoying. But that isn’t the biggest reason the slide and bore height annoy me. The extra bulk that goes with the taller bore height I seem an annoyance to me. It just feels like there more gun to deal with when carrying it. This point goes to the Glock. Your views on this may vary.
Sig P320 Compact: 3 Glock 19: 2
The Glock has, in some form or another, been around for decades. In that time, it has been one of the most popular guns on the market. While not long on looks, it enjoys a solid reputation for durability that is well earned. In the time I spent managing a firing range with a rental counter, I could count on one hand the number of failures we had with the various Glocks we had for rent. I won’t say there haven’t been teething issues with various models and generations, but overall Glock has always managed to sort things out. The 320 on the other hand, hasn’t been around long enough to have the same reputation for reliability though it’s very looking promising, particularly since the Army found it reliable and durable enough to adopt as the replacement for the M9 9mm Service Pistol in the form of the Modular Handgun System or MHS. That said, ultimately time will tell. Give this point to the Glock for the time being.
Sig P320 Compact: 3Glock 19:3
By my estimation, this comparison is a tie. It will really come down to what someone’s priorities are in a handgun when they decide between them. Both guns are solid performers and this is the closest match in competing pistols that I can recall seeing in years. I didn’t bother looking at the price as the msrp is similar and will end up varying depending on where buyers purchase them. Will I be giving up my Glock 19? No, but then, I’m not going to kick the P320 out of the safe either. If I didn’t have so much time invested in the Glock, I’d probabIy switch without any hesitation. I do fully intend to keep experimenting with the P320. Who knows, maybe it’ll end up in my carry and competition holsters yet as I’m tempted every time I pick one up.